Is Yahshua the Father?

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Is Yahshua the Father?

This issue seems to cause much confusion for those who accept Yahshua as the Hebrew Messiah which was promised to come according to the Prophets of Old. Although I would like to explain in my own words, I feel that too much confusion has occured due to commentaries and paraphrasing scriptural verses and history. So I will use very little of my own words, and stick to producing scriptures to break down where Yahshua (The Elected One) fits in the Godhead.

The Book of Daniel

Da 7:9 As I looked, thrones were placed and one that was ancient of days took his seat; his raiment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool; his throne was fiery flames, its wheels were burning fire Da 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man

and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him.

Da 7:22 until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom.

Gospel Account (Words of Yahshua)

Mt.4:4(NLV)But Yahshua told him, "No! The Scriptures say, 'People need more than bread for their life; they must feed on every word of God.' "Lu.4:8(NLV) Yahshua replied, "The Scriptures say, 'You must worship the Yahawah elioheynu; serve only him.' "

Mt.4:6(NLV)(Satan tested Yahshua) and said, "If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say, 'He orders his angels to protect you. And they will hold you with their hands to keep you from striking your foot on a stone.' " Mt.4:7(NLV)Yahshua (Hebrew name meaning "Yahawah is Salvation) responded, "The Scriptures also say, 'Do not test the Yahawah your EL(God).' "

Mt.4:10(NLV)"Get out of here, Satan," Yahawah told him. "For the Scriptures say, 'You must worship the Yahawah your EL(God); serve only him.' "

Mt.22:9 (NLV)Yahshua replied, "Your problem is that you don't know the Scriptures, and you don't know the power of EL(God)

****Mr.9:12(NLV)Yahshua responded, "Elijah is indeed coming first to set everything in order. Why then is it written in the Scriptures that the Son of Man must suffer and be treated with utter contempt?****13)But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and he was badly mistreated, just as the Scriptures predicted."

****Mr.14:21(NLV)For I, the Son of Man, must die, as the Scriptures declared long ago. But how terrible it will be for my betrayer. Far better for him if he had never been born!"****Verse Mr.14:27(NLV)"All of you will desert me," Yahshua told them. "For the Scriptures say, 'God will strike the Shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'****Verse Mr.14:49(NLV)Why didn't you arrest me in the Temple? I was there teaching every day. But these things are happening to fulfill what the Scriptures say about me."****

I posted the following scriptures so that we can see that Yahshua does not say that he is the Everlasting EL(God) but that he is the Son of Man. Now I realize this maybe very difficult for some to grasp hold of..So I will clarify the scriptures so that there is no misunderstanding of the fact.

****John 7:42(NLV)For the Scriptures clearly state that the Messiah will be born of the royal line of David, in Bethlehem, the village where King David was born."****(For those who desire the KJV)Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Ruth 4:17And the women her neighbours gave it a name, saying, There is a son born to Naomi; and they called his name Obed: he is the father of Jesse, the father of David.

Ruth 4:22Obed was the father of Jesse. Jesse was the father of David.

1 Sa. 16:1Finally, the YaHaWaH said to Samuel, "You have mourned long enough for Saul. I have rejected him as king of Israel. Now fill your horn with olive oil and go to Bethlehem. Find a man named Jesse who lives there, for I have selected one of his sons to be my new king."

1 Sa. 16:3 Invite Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will show you which of his sons to anoint for me."

1 Sa. 16:5"Yes," Samuel replied. "I have come to sacrifice to the YaHaWaH. Purify yourselves and come with me to the sacrifice." Then Samuel performed the purification rite for Jesse and his sons and invited them, too.

1Sa 16:8 Then Jesse told his son Abinadab to step forward and walk in front of Samuel. But Samuel said, "This is not the one the YaHaWaH has chosen." 1Sa 16:9 Next Jesse summoned Shammah, but Samuel said, "Neither is this the one the YaHaWaH has chosen." 1Sa 16:10 In the same way all seven of Jesse's sons were presented to Samuel. But Samuel said to Jesse, "The YaHaWaH has not chosen any of these." 1Sa 16:11Then Samuel asked, "Are these all the sons you have?""There is still the youngest," Jesse replied. "But he's out in the fields watching the sheep.""Send for him at once," Samuel said. "We will not sit down to eat until he arrives." 1Sa 16:12 So Jesse sent for him. He was ruddy and handsome, with pleasant eyes. And the YaHaWaH said, "This is the one; anoint him." 1Sa 16:18 One of the servants said to Saul, "The son of Jesse is a talented harp player. Not only that; he is brave and strong and has good judgment. He is also a fine-looking young man, and the YaHaWaH is with him."

Prophecy concerning the progeny of Jesse

1 Out of the stump of David's family will grow a shoot – yes, a new Branch bearing fruit from the old root.(KJV)1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:2 And the Spirit of the YaHaWaH will rest on him – the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the YaHaWaH. 3 He will delight in obeying the YaHaWaH. He will never judge by appearance, false evidence, or hearsay. 4 He will defend the poor and the exploited. He will rule against the wicked and destroy them with the breath of his mouth. 5 He will be clothed with fairness and truth....etc

Zec.3:8Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH. Zec.3:9For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the YaHaWaH of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. Zec.6:11Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest

Ps.69:21They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. Psalms 1:1-3

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the YaHaWaH; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; F2 and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Pr.11:30The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

Zec.4:10(KJV) For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the YaHaWaH, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Rev. 5:6(KJV)And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

Mic. 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem of Ephrathah, who are one of the little clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to rule in Israel, whose origin is from of old, from ancient days.

Rev.1:11(KJV) Saying, I am Alpha and Omega ('alpha'The first one; the beginning. 'omega'The end.the great or long), the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.17And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, the end; and have the keys of hell and of death. Rev. 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Now according to Revelation 1:11-18 the conclusion one would get is that this is the Son of Man Yahshua, since it states that I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, the end. However, there comes a problem later on that should have been mentioned from a Revelation verse on this page posted earler.

Rev.4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. 5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of El/God. 6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. 7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, YaHaWaH God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. 9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O YaHaWaH, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

In these verses we can see that the description is different than the former...Here we see twenty-four thrones and the elders and Angels and the four beast constantly give praises to this one that sits upon the throne. And a description was not given that this ONE upon the Throne was like the 'Son of Man'. In fact it clearly says two key things;He is the Everlasting One. Also, he is the One that created all things. Maybe this isn't enough to convince you however, I shall continue posting further scriptural evidence.

Rev.5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. (Then)2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? (Keyword in the next verse is Man; Remember that Man in hebrew means also 'ADAM'3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. I like to emphasize again that the term used here is 'man', not an angel or a god. (Now look and see what is taking place next)5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. (Bingo! The Lamb, which is the Mashiach took the book from One that sat upon the throne. Two separate entities/lack of a better description)8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

Rev.6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him (The One) that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb (from Who?): 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Rev.7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to Elioheynu (our god) which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb (Problem with this verse.) Why would our El need Salvation? Or should it have been worded Salvation is of our El which sitteth upon the throne and (of or unto) the Lamb. Read what takes place next.

11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped EL, 12 Saying, The End: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto Elioheynu (our god) for ever and ever. The End.

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of EL(abba/father), and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.(Who shall dwell among them? The One that sits upon the throne.)

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

is this not what Revelation 21 states?

4 And Yahawah/El/Abba shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Adonay (YaHaWaH) EL Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of EL(God) did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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15 his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters; 16 in his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth issued a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last, 18 and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades5 his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters; 16 in his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth issued a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last, 18 and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades


	Ezekiel Watchers \| home Is Yahshua the Father? This issue seems to cause much confusion for those who accept Yahshua as the Hebrew Messiah which was promised to come according to the Prophets of Old. Although I would like to explain in my own words, I feel that too much confusion has occured due to commentaries and paraphrasing scriptural verses and history. So I will use very little of my own words, and stick to producing scriptures to break down where Yahshua (The Elected One) fits in the Godhead. The Book of Daniel Da 7:9 As I looked, thrones were placed and one that was ancient of days took his seat; his raiment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like pure wool; his throne was fiery flames, its wheels were burning fire Da 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and behold, with the clouds of heaven there came one like a son of man and he came to the Ancient of Days and was presented before him. Da 7:22 until the Ancient of Days came, and judgment was given for the saints of the Most High, and the time came when the saints received the kingdom. Gospel Account (Words of Yahshua) Mt.4:4(NLV)But Yahshua told him, "No! The Scriptures say, 'People need more than bread for their life; they must feed on every word of God.' "Lu.4:8(NLV) Yahshua replied, "The Scriptures say, 'You must worship the Yahawah elioheynu; serve only him.' " Mt.4:6(NLV)(Satan tested Yahshua) and said, "If you are the Son of God, jump off! For the Scriptures say, 'He orders his angels to protect you. And they will hold you with their hands to keep you from striking your foot on a stone.' " Mt.4:7(NLV)Yahshua (Hebrew name meaning "Yahawah is Salvation) responded, "The Scriptures also say, 'Do not test the Yahawah your EL(God).' " Mt.4:10(NLV)"Get out of here, Satan," Yahawah told him. "For the Scriptures say, 'You must worship the Yahawah your EL(God); serve only him.' " Mt.22:9 (NLV)Yahshua replied, "Your problem is that you don't know the Scriptures, and you don't know the power of EL(God) ****Mr.9:12(NLV)Yahshua responded, "Elijah is indeed coming first to set everything in order. Why then is it written in the Scriptures that the Son of Man must suffer and be treated with utter contempt?**13)But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and he was badly mistreated, just as the Scriptures predicted." **Mr.14:21(NLV)For I, the Son of Man, must die, as the Scriptures declared long ago. But how terrible it will be for my betrayer. Far better for him if he had never been born!"**Verse Mr.14:27(NLV)"All of you will desert me," Yahshua told them. "For the Scriptures say, 'God will strike the Shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered.'Verse Mr.14:49(NLV)Why didn't you arrest me in the Temple? I was there teaching every day. But these things are happening to fulfill what the Scriptures say about me." I posted the following scriptures so that we can see that Yahshua does not say that he is the Everlasting EL(God) but that he is the Son of Man. Now I realize this maybe very difficult for some to grasp hold of..So I will clarify the scriptures so that there is no misunderstanding of the fact. **John 7:42(NLV)For the Scriptures clearly state that the Messiah will be born of the royal line of David, in Bethlehem, the village where King David was born."****(For those who desire the KJV)Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was? Ruth 4:17And the women her neighbours gave it a name, saying, There is a son born to Naomi; and they called his name Obed: he is the father of Jesse, the father of David. Ruth 4:22Obed was the father of Jesse. Jesse was the father of David. 1 Sa. 16:1Finally, the YaHaWaH said to Samuel, "You have mourned long enough for Saul. I have rejected him as king of Israel. Now fill your horn with olive oil and go to Bethlehem. Find a man named Jesse who lives there, for I have selected one of his sons to be my new king." 1 Sa. 16:3 Invite Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will show you which of his sons to anoint for me." 1 Sa. 16:5"Yes," Samuel replied. "I have come to sacrifice to the YaHaWaH. Purify yourselves and come with me to the sacrifice." Then Samuel performed the purification rite for Jesse and his sons and invited them, too. 1Sa 16:8 Then Jesse told his son Abinadab to step forward and walk in front of Samuel. But Samuel said, "This is not the one the YaHaWaH has chosen." 1Sa 16:9 Next Jesse summoned Shammah, but Samuel said, "Neither is this the one the YaHaWaH has chosen." 1Sa 16:10 In the same way all seven of Jesse's sons were presented to Samuel. But Samuel said to Jesse, "The YaHaWaH has not chosen any of these." 1Sa 16:11Then Samuel asked, "Are these all the sons you have?""There is still the youngest," Jesse replied. "But he's out in the fields watching the sheep.""Send for him at once," Samuel said. "We will not sit down to eat until he arrives." 1Sa 16:12 So Jesse sent for him. He was ruddy and handsome, with pleasant eyes. And the YaHaWaH said, "This is the one; anoint him." 1Sa 16:18 One of the servants said to Saul, "The son of Jesse is a talented harp player. Not only that; he is brave and strong and has good judgment. He is also a fine-looking young man, and the YaHaWaH is with him." Prophecy concerning the progeny of Jesse 1 Out of the stump of David's family will grow a shoot – yes, a new Branch bearing fruit from the old root.(KJV)1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:2 And the Spirit of the YaHaWaH will rest on him – the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the YaHaWaH. 3 He will delight in obeying the YaHaWaH. He will never judge by appearance, false evidence, or hearsay. 4 He will defend the poor and the exploited. He will rule against the wicked and destroy them with the breath of his mouth. 5 He will be clothed with fairness and truth....etc Zec.3:8Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH. Zec.3:9For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the YaHaWaH of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day. Zec.6:11Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest Ps.69:21They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink. Psalms 1:1-3 1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2 But his delight is in the law of the YaHaWaH; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; F2 and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. Pr.11:30The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise. Zec.4:10(KJV) For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the YaHaWaH, which run to and fro through the whole earth. Rev. 5:6(KJV)And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Mic. 5:2 But you, O Bethlehem of Ephrathah, who are one of the little clans of Judah, from you shall come forth for me one who is to rule in Israel, whose origin is from of old, from ancient days. Rev.1:11(KJV) Saying, I am Alpha and Omega ('alpha'The first one; the beginning. 'omega'The end.the great or long), the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.17And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, the end; and have the keys of hell and of death. Rev. 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Now according to Revelation 1:11-18 the conclusion one would get is that this is the Son of Man Yahshua, since it states that I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, the end. However, there comes a problem later on that should have been mentioned from a Revelation verse on this page posted earler. Rev.4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. 5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of El/God. 6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. 7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, YaHaWaH God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. 9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O YaHaWaH, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. In these verses we can see that the description is different than the former...Here we see twenty-four thrones and the elders and Angels and the four beast constantly give praises to this one that sits upon the throne. And a description was not given that this ONE upon the Throne was like the 'Son of Man'. In fact it clearly says two key things;He is the Everlasting One. Also, he is the One that created all things. Maybe this isn't enough to convince you however, I shall continue posting further scriptural evidence. Rev.5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. (Then)2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? (Keyword in the next verse is Man; Remember that Man in hebrew means also 'ADAM'3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. I like to emphasize again that the term used here is 'man', not an angel or a god. (Now look and see what is taking place next)5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. (Bingo! The Lamb, which is the Mashiach took the book from One that sat upon the throne. Two separate entities/lack of a better description)8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth 11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. 1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. Rev.6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of Him (The One) that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb (from Who?): 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev.7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to Elioheynu (our god) which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb (Problem with this verse.) Why would our El need Salvation? Or should it have been worded Salvation is of our El which sitteth upon the throne and (of or unto) the Lamb. Read what takes place next. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped EL, 12 Saying, The End: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto Elioheynu (our god) for ever and ever. The End. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of EL(abba/father), and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.(Who shall dwell among them? The One that sits upon the throne.) 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. is this not what Revelation 21 states? 4 And Yahawah/El/Abba shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Adonay (YaHaWaH) EL Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of EL(God) did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. Learn more revelations concerning Yahshua 15 his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters; 16 in his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth issued a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last, 18 and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades5 his feet were like burnished bronze, refined as in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters; 16 in his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth issued a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength. 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand upon me, saying, "Fear not, I am the first and the last, 18 and the living one; I died, and behold I am alive for evermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades